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	<title>Comments on: Apple Does NOT Own The Term &#8220;Podcast&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Ramblings of Boston Based Media Maven C.C. Chapman</description>
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		<title>By: NastyBoards</title>
		<link>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-43830</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: That&#8217;s iPod, Not MyPod at A Media Circus</title>
		<link>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3799</link>
		<author>That&#8217;s iPod, Not MyPod at A Media Circus</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 00:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hannes</title>
		<link>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3735</link>
		<author>Hannes</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should call the people at Sony and ask about their legal walkman-battle. Or what about the aspirine history?

When a brand name being the proper name of a product, service or company becomes a common noun it means that your brand was able to get a first class seat in history. Your product has achieved the status of an icon. It actually became a part of a lot of people's common sense (hence the label common noun) about the world.

We do photoshop our pictures now (we never ever say we microsoft photoedit our pictures) and we make podcast all the time. We did edit our pictures long before AdobePhotoshop and we did broadcast our audio on the web long before your iPods even exist. But people all over the globe "chose" to use your brand names to refer to these activities. In fact, your marketing departments, your engineers, your designers, your brandheroes made us choose these names to refer to these activities. The fact that we are using these terms in a general way is thus a sign of their marketing/branding/economic power. That's something to be proud of!

So Applonies, don't complain about your brand names being used in a more common way. You made us use them in this way.

I suggest these people at apple get in touch with some linguists who can explain them that language is something organic, growing and changing and adapting in a way which one can hardly control.

You can never get everlasting global and total control over the way people write, the way people think or the way people speak. You can give them directions (e.g. dictionaries, formalities, codes,...) and influence our speach very profoundly but that's really it. It usually takes you a lot of years and a hell lot of blood, sweat, tears and money.

Still, these directions, rules and regulations can be very tight and strict. They can be enforced by some one with great economic, military, moral or political power. These people can make people change their language. Dominant languages are still whiping out dialects and other languages every single day.

By the way, who invented the word apple and allowed this company to "steal" it from our common language anyway. If they want to be consistent, they should sue the authors of the bible and of any other book containing the word apple.

What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should call the people at Sony and ask about their legal walkman-battle. Or what about the aspirine history?</p>
<p>When a brand name being the proper name of a product, service or company becomes a common noun it means that your brand was able to get a first class seat in history. Your product has achieved the status of an icon. It actually became a part of a lot of people&#8217;s common sense (hence the label common noun) about the world.</p>
<p>We do photoshop our pictures now (we never ever say we microsoft photoedit our pictures) and we make podcast all the time. We did edit our pictures long before AdobePhotoshop and we did broadcast our audio on the web long before your iPods even exist. But people all over the globe &#8220;chose&#8221; to use your brand names to refer to these activities. In fact, your marketing departments, your engineers, your designers, your brandheroes made us choose these names to refer to these activities. The fact that we are using these terms in a general way is thus a sign of their marketing/branding/economic power. That&#8217;s something to be proud of!</p>
<p>So Applonies, don&#8217;t complain about your brand names being used in a more common way. You made us use them in this way.</p>
<p>I suggest these people at apple get in touch with some linguists who can explain them that language is something organic, growing and changing and adapting in a way which one can hardly control.</p>
<p>You can never get everlasting global and total control over the way people write, the way people think or the way people speak. You can give them directions (e.g. dictionaries, formalities, codes,&#8230;) and influence our speach very profoundly but that&#8217;s really it. It usually takes you a lot of years and a hell lot of blood, sweat, tears and money.</p>
<p>Still, these directions, rules and regulations can be very tight and strict. They can be enforced by some one with great economic, military, moral or political power. These people can make people change their language. Dominant languages are still whiping out dialects and other languages every single day.</p>
<p>By the way, who invented the word apple and allowed this company to &#8220;steal&#8221; it from our common language anyway. If they want to be consistent, they should sue the authors of the bible and of any other book containing the word apple.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: iProng Radio &#187; Blog Archive &#187; iProng radio: 9-27-06</title>
		<link>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3705</link>
		<author>iProng Radio &#187; Blog Archive &#187; iProng radio: 9-27-06</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3705</guid>
		<description>[...] Sites mentioned: ioda Promonet, Daily source Code, Brother Love,C.C&#8217;s Apple blog post, and an update from C.C. based on new info about the Apple/Podcast Ready situation, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Sites mentioned: ioda Promonet, Daily source Code, Brother Love,C.C&#8217;s Apple blog post, and an update from C.C. based on new info about the Apple/Podcast Ready situation, [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: GeekBrief.TV &#124; Video Podcast with news about tech tools and toys.</title>
		<link>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3694</link>
		<author>GeekBrief.TV &#124; Video Podcast with news about tech tools and toys.</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3694</guid>
		<description>[...] Apple&#8217;s Cease and Desist letter to Podcast Ready Source: C.C. Chapman Company: Apple [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dan J</title>
		<link>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3663</link>
		<author>Dan J</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm just wondering if we are not allowed to go buy iGlasses from the optician anymore.  iBet iWon't be allowed to.

Maybe we should come up with a different name.  I also like the idea that "pod" means "portable on-demand".

Apple needs to get over themselves.  This is just going to backfire on them, iFeel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just wondering if we are not allowed to go buy iGlasses from the optician anymore.  iBet iWon&#8217;t be allowed to.</p>
<p>Maybe we should come up with a different name.  I also like the idea that &#8220;pod&#8221; means &#8220;portable on-demand&#8221;.</p>
<p>Apple needs to get over themselves.  This is just going to backfire on them, iFeel.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken C</title>
		<link>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3662</link>
		<author>Ken C</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a big Apple fan (heck got my own Mac related podcast) but I about went nuts over this. They do not own the term, they did not create it, it was created by of the podcast pioneers, and continues to be built into the publics mind with each new podcast comes out.

I have been podcasting for over a year, I got asked recently to speak to a group of Tech leaders here in Arizona this winter. About no less podcasting. Well I don't claim to know everything about it so of course I have done my research to make sure I can answer all the questions. One thing was the real term for podcast: Portable On Demand Broadcast. I can't see how Apple can win this one.

Can't wait to see ya again at the Expo this week C.C!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a big Apple fan (heck got my own Mac related podcast) but I about went nuts over this. They do not own the term, they did not create it, it was created by of the podcast pioneers, and continues to be built into the publics mind with each new podcast comes out.</p>
<p>I have been podcasting for over a year, I got asked recently to speak to a group of Tech leaders here in Arizona this winter. About no less podcasting. Well I don&#8217;t claim to know everything about it so of course I have done my research to make sure I can answer all the questions. One thing was the real term for podcast: Portable On Demand Broadcast. I can&#8217;t see how Apple can win this one.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to see ya again at the Expo this week C.C!</p>
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		<title>By: Mighty Seek - Web Application Security Podcast and Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple owns the term &#8220;pod&#8221;?!</title>
		<link>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3647</link>
		<author>Mighty Seek - Web Application Security Podcast and Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple owns the term &#8220;pod&#8221;?!</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As mentioned in this wired blog and on various blogs (here, here and here), mailing lists and forums, Apple is laying claim to the term &#8220;pod&#8221; and has filed for trademark protection. Of course I think this is a bunch of crap and Im hoping that some big wigs at Apple pull off their lawyers from this terrible line of actions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] As mentioned in this wired blog and on various blogs (here, here and here), mailing lists and forums, Apple is laying claim to the term &#8220;pod&#8221; and has filed for trademark protection. Of course I think this is a bunch of crap and Im hoping that some big wigs at Apple pull off their lawyers from this terrible line of actions. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Forman</title>
		<link>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3631</link>
		<author>Mark Forman</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 15:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3631</guid>
		<description>But tell us how you really feel CC?

Corporations are in business to make money and dominate markets. Corporate lawyers are the "button men" in the corporate world.

Old story-new buzzwords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But tell us how you really feel CC?</p>
<p>Corporations are in business to make money and dominate markets. Corporate lawyers are the &#8220;button men&#8221; in the corporate world.</p>
<p>Old story-new buzzwords.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitney Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3629</link>
		<author>Whitney Hoffman</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why aren't they suing iRiver for using the little i- or has ee. cummings already sued Apple because he took the use of small i mainstream?

As a lawyer, I know this is about protecting market share and intellectual property, but it is stupid and self defeating because:

Brands should want to become so iconic they become a noun- Jello; Kleenex; Bandaid; Windex; ipod-
They all have the same things in common.  They are the product, and the class of similar products-other brands don't have the same consumer presence. No one calls an ipod an mp3 player, although it is.  We all need a tissue, but we ask for kleenex.  Podcasting takes advantage of itunes; most of us take advantage of itunes as a major source of distribution to ourselves and the masses, although other podcast aggregators work, too.  A huge percentage of listeners get our shows through itunes- we are providing itunes with free content, and they should just be gracious about it. 
I can see "iPodder" and "mypodder" crossing the line of possible infringement, but I doubt the term podcasting itself will make it as a trademark-I think I heard it was about to become a dictionary term.  I'll do some research, and maybe we can submit a friends of the court (Amicus) brief on behalf of Podcast Ready.  I've done this before, and we should be able to do it- even as a loose "Trade Assocation" of podcasters, if the legal guys at Podshow aren't already willing to do this.
Let me know- and I'll unleash the legal research tools at my disposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why aren&#8217;t they suing iRiver for using the little i- or has ee. cummings already sued Apple because he took the use of small i mainstream?</p>
<p>As a lawyer, I know this is about protecting market share and intellectual property, but it is stupid and self defeating because:</p>
<p>Brands should want to become so iconic they become a noun- Jello; Kleenex; Bandaid; Windex; ipod-<br />
They all have the same things in common.  They are the product, and the class of similar products-other brands don&#8217;t have the same consumer presence. No one calls an ipod an mp3 player, although it is.  We all need a tissue, but we ask for kleenex.  Podcasting takes advantage of itunes; most of us take advantage of itunes as a major source of distribution to ourselves and the masses, although other podcast aggregators work, too.  A huge percentage of listeners get our shows through itunes- we are providing itunes with free content, and they should just be gracious about it.<br />
I can see &#8220;iPodder&#8221; and &#8220;mypodder&#8221; crossing the line of possible infringement, but I doubt the term podcasting itself will make it as a trademark-I think I heard it was about to become a dictionary term.  I&#8217;ll do some research, and maybe we can submit a friends of the court (Amicus) brief on behalf of Podcast Ready.  I&#8217;ve done this before, and we should be able to do it- even as a loose &#8220;Trade Assocation&#8221; of podcasters, if the legal guys at Podshow aren&#8217;t already willing to do this.<br />
Let me know- and I&#8217;ll unleash the legal research tools at my disposal.</p>
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		<title>By: whatever</title>
		<link>http://www.cc-chapman.com/2006/09/23/apple-does-not-own-the-term-podcast/#comment-3627</link>
		<author>whatever</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IANAL, but I doubt all the brightest minds on marketing and branding will help.  What you would really need is one half-decent mind that understands Trademark Law.   He would look at the following facts.

1.  Apple has Trademarked the term "iPod".
2.  People apparently use the term Podcast since it invovkes the idea of an iPod and creates stronger recognition than it otherwise would.

Trademark has to be vigorously defended or you lose it.   If you allow anybody to use your trademarked terms without challenge, you lose the ability to challenge somebody else.  Try calling it a CokeCast and see how long it takes before some lawyers from Atlanta give you a call.  Not because they really care, but because if they don't defend the infringement in one case, they lose the ability to defend it in any case.

Apple probably doesn't care about 99% of Podcast content either, but it Podcast implies iPod and Apple support they need to distance themselves from content that others may find objectionable.

So...  is iPod == Pod?   Unless you can all really believe that it means something else (and I like Joe C's idea), Apple may have a case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IANAL, but I doubt all the brightest minds on marketing and branding will help.  What you would really need is one half-decent mind that understands Trademark Law.   He would look at the following facts.</p>
<p>1.  Apple has Trademarked the term &#8220;iPod&#8221;.<br />
2.  People apparently use the term Podcast since it invovkes the idea of an iPod and creates stronger recognition than it otherwise would.</p>
<p>Trademark has to be vigorously defended or you lose it.   If you allow anybody to use your trademarked terms without challenge, you lose the ability to challenge somebody else.  Try calling it a CokeCast and see how long it takes before some lawyers from Atlanta give you a call.  Not because they really care, but because if they don&#8217;t defend the infringement in one case, they lose the ability to defend it in any case.</p>
<p>Apple probably doesn&#8217;t care about 99% of Podcast content either, but it Podcast implies iPod and Apple support they need to distance themselves from content that others may find objectionable.</p>
<p>So&#8230;  is iPod == Pod?   Unless you can all really believe that it means something else (and I like Joe C&#8217;s idea), Apple may have a case.</p>
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